Comments on: Double Strike for the Pie Man http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/pie-man-strikes/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:06:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Dr. Kaplan http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/pie-man-strikes/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/comment-page-1/#comment-167 Dr. Kaplan Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:53:09 +0000 http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/homeopathy/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/#comment-167 Indeed Andrew. Edzard Ernst is a man who has found his time and place (our 'evidence-based', authoritarian, surveillance society). However there are signs that the English people are starting to tire of those who bleatingly acquiesce to 'tighter controls' ( a phrase used by Ernst in relation to CAM) on their desire to make their own choices about all sorts of things including healthcare. As the tide hopefully slips away from him, he deserves not only our sympathy, but also our retrospective congratulations on riding his wave for so long, self-righteously attacking (eg acccusing CAM practitioners of lying to their patients) anyone who agrees with his limited, deterministic, overly mechanistic and scientismic view of the world, life and medicine. So I say: 'TWO CHEERS FOR PROFESSOR EDZARD ERNST!'. Indeed Andrew. Edzard Ernst is a man who has found his time and place (our ‘evidence-based’, authoritarian, surveillance society). However there are signs that the English people are starting to tire of those who bleatingly acquiesce to ‘tighter controls’ ( a phrase used by Ernst in relation to CAM) on their desire to make their own choices about all sorts of things including healthcare. As the tide hopefully slips away from him, he deserves not only our sympathy, but also our retrospective congratulations on riding his wave for so long, self-righteously attacking (eg acccusing CAM practitioners of lying to their patients) anyone who agrees with his limited, deterministic, overly mechanistic and scientismic view of the world, life and medicine. So I say: ‘TWO CHEERS FOR PROFESSOR EDZARD ERNST!’.

]]> By: Dr. Kaplan http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/pie-man-strikes/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/comment-page-1/#comment-166 Dr. Kaplan Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:45:08 +0000 http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/homeopathy/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/#comment-166 I say YES! to that. Perhaps a pie of truth is a small obstacle if one at all in the path of those who will not see. When one has strong and militant opinions, it's best not to be confused by facts I say YES! to that. Perhaps a pie of truth is a small obstacle if one at all in the path of those who will not see. When one has strong and militant opinions, it’s best not to be confused by facts

]]> By: Andrew http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/pie-man-strikes/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/comment-page-1/#comment-165 Andrew Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:37:38 +0000 http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/homeopathy/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/#comment-165 Nice one Brian- Ernst posted a diatribe in pulse just recently - he seems to be veering away from any sense or sensibility- just like politicians who sack scientists who don't tow the party line-- he tows too. Nice one Brian- Ernst posted a diatribe in pulse just recently – he seems to be veering away from any sense or sensibility- just like politicians who sack scientists who don’t tow the party line– he tows too.

]]> By: Ruth http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/pie-man-strikes/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/comment-page-1/#comment-164 Ruth Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:27:53 +0000 http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/homeopathy/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/#comment-164 Doc, I'm glad you have chosen the high road and simply defended yourself with fact, as well as a good face-pie. The inverse and intrinsic nature of this world is that untruths, deception, savagery, demagoguery and other forms of magic, quackery and voodoo are IN, while truth-tellers get burned (or crucified) at the stake. It has always been like this. The pie contains truth that is unassailable and it stands ready to be tackled by anybody with balls AND facts. IF...and only IF it can be dissembled, will I (for one) rethink the position of evidence in medicine. So far, no serious takers, eh?? Even lawyers are evidence-based 'practitioners'. Moreover, if you were a doctor-lawyer, you would not have been abused; his sorry ass would have ended up answering a string of subpoenas, a tax audit, as well as private detectives crawling up his sorry sigmoid....for starters. Quite a deterrent, eh? When the shingle outside your office reads 'I SUE' and not 'I HEAL', then you will get the respect you deserve. WAIT A SECOND KABONGO! What the hell am I doing wasting my time trying to be reasonable, calm and ummm, level-headed...hahahaHA!? THIS is what you MUST understand; just say "YES!!"..... This is the way the world works. Why don't you join the bullshitters? They make lots of money, drive fancy cars and have luxury residences. You can simply postpone wrestling with your conscience ad infinitum....beyond reincarnation. There is no solution to problems of veracity. Move over to the dark side and start living a better life. You will be a Professor-Doctor in less than one year, IF you adopt the credo that the chief occupation of mankind is to insist on believing the palpably untrue. Free will is a philosophic joke.....HAHAHAHAHAHA! Take care Doc. Health IS wealth ;^) Fritz Kabongo MD. Doc,

I’m glad you have chosen the high road and simply defended yourself with fact, as well as a good face-pie. The inverse and intrinsic nature of this world is that untruths, deception, savagery, demagoguery and other forms of magic, quackery and voodoo are IN, while truth-tellers get burned (or crucified) at the stake. It has always been like this.
The pie contains truth that is unassailable and it stands ready to be tackled by anybody with balls AND facts. IF…and only IF it can be dissembled, will I (for one) rethink the position of evidence in medicine. So far, no serious takers, eh??

Even lawyers are evidence-based ‘practitioners’.
Moreover, if you were a doctor-lawyer, you would not have been abused; his sorry ass would have ended up answering a string of subpoenas, a tax audit, as well as private detectives crawling up his sorry sigmoid….for starters. Quite a deterrent, eh? When the shingle outside your office reads ‘I SUE’ and not ‘I HEAL’, then you will get the respect you deserve.

WAIT A SECOND KABONGO! What the hell am I doing wasting my time trying to be reasonable, calm and ummm, level-headed…hahahaHA!?

THIS is what you MUST understand; just say “YES!!”…..
This is the way the world works. Why don’t you join the bullshitters? They make lots of money, drive fancy cars and have luxury residences. You can simply postpone wrestling with your conscience ad infinitum….beyond reincarnation.
There is no solution to problems of veracity. Move over to the dark side and start living a better life. You will be a Professor-Doctor in less than one year, IF you adopt the credo that the chief occupation of mankind is to insist on believing the palpably untrue. Free will is a philosophic joke…..HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Take care Doc. Health IS wealth ;^)

Fritz Kabongo MD.

]]> By: Dr. Kaplan http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/pie-man-strikes/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Dr. Kaplan Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:48:28 +0000 http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/homeopathy/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/#comment-163 I am heartened by your prompt and positive response to a post that I personally regarded as important and that should be read by hundreds of thousands of sceptics ;-) Am I a salmon swimming against the tide? I think I will have to resort to Provocative Therapy (the cutting edge in the use of clinical Reverse Psychology) to deal with these people. Well, you know something, at least one intelligent person read what I wrote. That makes me ALMOST HAPPY. Thanks, Brian I am heartened by your prompt and positive response to a post that I personally regarded as important and that should be read by hundreds of thousands of sceptics ;-) Am I a salmon swimming against the tide? I think I will have to resort to Provocative Therapy (the cutting edge in the use of clinical Reverse Psychology) to deal with these people. Well, you know something, at least one intelligent person read what I wrote. That makes me ALMOST HAPPY.
Thanks,
Brian

]]> By: paul http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/pie-man-strikes/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/comment-page-1/#comment-162 paul Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:40:11 +0000 http://drkaplan.co.uk/2009/11/homeopathy/double-strike-for-the-pie-man/#comment-162 Thank you for you clear and precise expose of these disciples of "new scientism". One cannot help wondering why the AJMed was not willing to publicise an answer? Do they have close links to the AMA I wonder? It is worth looking at how historically they have always had an anti-pathy towards those "Damned homeopaths". Thank you for you clear and precise expose of these disciples of “new scientism”. One cannot help wondering why the AJMed was not willing to publicise an answer? Do they have close links to the AMA I wonder? It is worth looking at how historically they have always had an anti-pathy towards those “Damned homeopaths”.

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